Question:
Bill Leckie hits the nail on the head about Celtic FC?
xdovesx
2011-12-19 03:10:00 UTC
THE first step to solving a problem is admitting you have one.

Alternatively, you could act like Peter Lawwell.

And keep denying, denying, denying in the vain hope the world will eventually go away and leave you alone.

Well, what else is there to say about a man who watches the away end in Udine unfurl a giant banner reading F*** UEFA and declares the halfwits responsible "aren't real Celtic fans".

Not real Celtic fans? Is he having a Steffi Graf?

These people paid about 400 quid a head to follow the team to Italy ten days before Christmas. If that doesn't make them real fans, what does?

Do they need to actually pay the team's hotel bill out of their own pocket? Buy a new left-back?

Because plainly Parkhead's chief executive isn't impressed by them merely travelling that far at that much expense at this time of year with that slim a chance of coming back happy.

Though, before ǝpɐbıɹq uǝǝɹb ǝɥʇ take this as some sort of compliment, one word of advice. Don't.

Because being there through thick and thin doesn't make them any less stupid, crass or bullying than the world already knows them to be.

That stunt the other night could cost their club big time, both in terms of another fine and permanent damage to their reputation around the world.

Mind you, at least they have an excuse. They're numbskulls.

On the other hand, Lawwell is an intelligent man. A financial whizz. A high-flying negotiator.

Yet he still refuses to own up to the fact that these morons are his club's problem and therefore his problem.

More to the point, he also seems blind to the fact that, in the eyes of those whose motto is F*** The World, not only are they real Celtic fans, they see themselves as the only true Celtic fans.

In their heads, they're upholding a noble cause. They're defending an oppressed community kept down by a bigoted establishment. They're freedom fighters.

Anyone who criticises them is criticising Celtic and, therefore, to be despised.

So when police officer Eddie Smith reports them to UEFA for singing pro-IRA bile, they turn up with a banner abusing him.

When UEFA crack down, they abuse them.

When everyone else in the country is respecting the dead of two wars, they turn up with a banner reading No Bloodstained Poppies On Our Shirts.

They produced stickers branding former chairman John Smith a war criminal because he was once Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Back in January, when I had a go at the behaviour of some of them at Ibrox, they turned up the following week with a banner reading F*** Bill Leckie. Everyone who isn't them is wrong. Everyone who isn't with them is against them. Everyone else is a bigot, not them.

Even Neil Lennon is getting it in the neck from them for having a pop over the Udine nonsense.

Though it's a fair bet the true paranoids among them will be tapping their noses and going: "Aye, he wants to agree with us, he's just scared that The Establishment will hammer him for it." It's all cobblers. But nothing more so than Lawwell's repeatedly-mumbled threat to "identify" offenders and "deal with them".

Here's a clue, Peter. They're the ones whose banners always have the same typeface and which are always in the same section of the ground at home games. The section you set aside for them.

Promising to "identify" them is like looking at the dugout and vowing to work out which one's Lennon from a description of him as the wee, angry ginger fella. The longer Lawwell remains in denial, the more powerful the banner-waving balloons will become in their own minds. The more powerful they believe themselves to be, the harder it will be to shift them.

And with every game where they get to hang about like a bad smell, the closer Celtic will come to their next embarrassment in the eyes of society.

So the situation's simple, Mr L.

You can deal with the problem. Or you can keep hiding from it and let it turn into a full-blown crisis. Your call.
Seven answers:
bluebell
2011-12-19 13:41:00 UTC
everything he said is 100% correct....but you know the wee celtic fans feed that chip on their shoulder by calling mr leckie a bigot when really they can't talk....they kid theirselves on and put the blame on others all they want..fact is they are ***** arseholes with a self importance that is truly laughable
Tatty
2011-12-19 13:27:11 UTC
I'm sure Bill Leckie would actually like to "Hammer nails into the head of Celtic fans" such is his evident and clear hatred for us. While I am not disputing that certain sections of our support are bigoted, Leckie really needs to read his own drivel and understand he is exactly what he accuses others of being....a deeply biased and bigoted person.



Actually for the most part he is talking shite, based on his bitterness against us. Celtic FC released a statement, saying they had identified and banned for life a certain Ross Connolly (as well as being arrested by Italian Police) for the banner and assaulting a Celtic Steward.



I didn't like Lawwells "not real Celtic fans" quote, but I feel it is used as "if they were real fans they would understand what they are doing to OUR club and not do it".



The problem I have, is the two do not equate to the same things, having the intelligence to refrain from doing things that are detrimental to the club, has no bearing on "how real a fan you are", a bearing on what kind of individual you are, your views and how you go about expressing them, Yes, but never how much of a fan you are. I am sure plenty of people love their families dearly, but still create upset and disharmony within that family.



I feel Lawwell has been a little ambiguous with his statements against this thing and some times does not send out a clear message, but the real problem is not him, not Celtic FC, but the individuals who wish to continue with these things.
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2011-12-20 16:56:56 UTC
The banner was not the work of just one person and you can't say he never had the backing of any other Celtic fans although to be fair I agree with what the banner says but I wouldn't go that far as to do what he did.
JaMie
2011-12-19 11:18:55 UTC
i'm going to give Mr Lawwel a bit of credit because i think he has actually said the right things this week to an extent



However it is clearly the green brigade and the only solution is to move their season tickets and split them up
drjimbillybob
2011-12-19 15:28:41 UTC
Green brigade are arseholes but the Rangers fans aren't much better, didn't they chant f*** the SPL only a couple of seasons ago over fixture dates?
?
2011-12-19 18:35:19 UTC
so, i take it your an angry rangers fan then :L



wow bluebell, ever cross ur mind that what ur saying could come across as, oh, i dunno, a tad hypocritical.....
2011-12-19 12:24:14 UTC
True.

Largely.

What you say, is.


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